Newsfront Interview, New York, May 14th 1968 WNDT Broadcast - The Beatles Curiosities Volume 1

John Lennon

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[00:00.000] Q: John Lennon and Paul McCartney ,
[00:01.998] What do you think is the one single thing
[00:04.073] that most contributed to your phenomenal,
[00:06.185] unprecedented success in the past 8 or 9 years? Any single thing?"
[00:11.994] JOHN: "Umm, God?"
[00:13.667] PAUL: "I'll go along with that."
[00:17.316] Q: "So much has been said that you started a trend,
[00:21.403] and that the trend that exists today -
[00:23.392] this whole psychedelic mixed-media world..." PAUL & JOHN: (laugh)
[00:26.880] Q: "...kind of goes back to the early days
[00:28.828] when you embarked on that, some have said, rock-strewn path."
[00:32.204] JOHN: "We're just part of it, whatever it is."
[00:35.242] PAUL: "We didn't set that one. We're just rolling along with it."
[00:38.791] JOHN: "But we're part of it, you know."
[00:40.941] Q: "But you were so much ahead, though, as so many have said."
[00:43.678] JOHN: "To a degree. There's always somebody a bit ahead."
[00:46.028] Q: "What led you down that road in the first place?
[00:49.667] What brought you into that medium?"
[00:51.916] PAUL: "Progress. Just natural progress as things change.
[00:57.967] You know, they just keep changing. You can't help it.
[00:59.816] And we just (laughs) kept along with them as they kept changing...
[01:04.028] And here we are!"
[01:05.841] Q: "The millions of young people that now are grown up,
[01:10.354] I suppose, had started out with you a few years ago.
[01:12.628] They've been affected, it's said, by what you've done,
[01:16.578] deeply and permanently.
[01:18.229] Do you think this is true?"
[01:19.378] JOHN: "Yeah, in some cases that will be true."
[01:22.416] PAUL: "Yeah, and it goes for us, too.
[01:24.166] We've been affected by them."
[01:25.554] JOHN: "I tell ya, I'm permanently affected by Elvis Presley...
[01:27.753] Permanently affected by whoever it is you're affected by."
[01:30.629] PAUL: (jokingly) "...scars to prove it."
[01:32.241] Q: "Going back again to the early 1960's
[01:36.141] when you first achieved your outstanding success.
[01:39.641] Things were very different in the world then -
[01:41.666] the world of popular music and the world of youth,
[01:43.904] weren't they, than they are today."
[01:45.365] JOHN: "It's gonna be... It's just change, you know.
[01:48.304] Everything changes.
[01:49.590] EVERYTHING was different then,
[01:50.766] so there's no sort of specifics about it.
[01:53.917] The whole thing's continually changing.
[01:55.903] So we can't really comment on why one particular man
[02:01.467] had better white trousers on in 1933.
[02:05.115] There's nothing to say about it, but it happened."
[02:07.916] PAUL: (jokingly to John) "Wrap up adlib! Close to script!"
[02:10.416] Q: "Yeah, we should go back to 'copy' now."  (laughter)
[02:13.004] Q: "But changes that did occur in those years...
[02:15.290] How would you describe the kind of change?
[02:17.403] Was it the waking of a sleeping giant?
[02:20.290] We talk about young people,
[02:21.640] and we talk about the fact that so much has awakened
[02:25.765] on the scene of life for young people."
[02:28.916] PAUL: "You know I mean, none of us know what it is.
[02:32.428] I don't think anyone knows what it is.
[02:34.216] And it's just... it's life, you know.
[02:36.353] You appear to grow up,
[02:38.741] and we started off in leather jackets chinging away on guitars.
[02:44.978] And it went through a lot of phases until it got here.
[02:49.128] You know, and that's all we can say about it.
[02:51.404] I don't know what happened. (laughs)
[02:52.423] You can't say exactly what went on." JOHN: "How can you say?"
[02:58.013] Q: "Do you think that seven, eight, nine, ten years ago,
[03:02.138] that young people were less awake?"
[03:05.302] JOHN: "I think they're becoming more aware each generation.
[03:08.125] I don't know whether it'll end at some point
[03:10.414] and go back to the start.
[03:11.475] But it seems to be going that way - more aware."
[03:14.338] Q: "More new experiences all the time?"
[03:17.538] JOHN: "Well of course."
[03:18.638] PAUL: "More aware, but no one's quite sure
[03:20.713] what it is that they're aware of.
[03:22.813] But they're aware of it (laughing) whatever it is.
[03:26.563] (pause) You know, it's one of those things
[03:29.087] you can't talk about because it gets into things
[03:33.125] you can't put your finger on.
[03:34.575] (to himself) Wrap up adlib. Close to script."
[03:39.614] Q: "A lot of older people seem to feel that the young people today,
[03:42.313] as I suppose older people always felt,
[03:43.922] are always rebelling against the older generation.
[03:46.521] But that this rebellion has gone so much further than other rebellions."
[03:50.296] JOHN: "Yes."  PAUL: "Yeah."
[03:52.771] JOHN: "What will the next one be like, you know."
[03:54.059] Q: "They'll rebell against you."
[03:55.559] JOHN: "Depending on what we turn into."
[03:57.821] Q: "What are you going to turn into?"
[03:59.734] JOHN: "Well, if we stay like we are now it mightn't be bad.
[04:03.946] But we should progress and be able to still communicate with kids
[04:07.609] if this change is as important as it might be.
[04:11.559] But if it isn't, it's just the same again. (comically, to the announcer) What's yours?"
[04:16.171] Q: "That's a good question. (pause)
[04:18.008] But as you leave the 20's... How soon will that be for both of you?"
[04:22.146] JOHN: "I'm 27."
[04:22.896] PAUL: "25."
[04:24.570] Q: "You still have a ways to go,
[04:25.783] but you talk about yourselves as gray old men in a sense,
[04:28.472] compared to those years ago."
[04:29.771] JOHN: (giggles) "It's only the way you're hearing it."(laughter)
[04:31.495] Q: "You've made so much money
[04:34.045] and you've achieved so much success so early.
[04:36.470] Does this worry you?"
[04:37.633] JOHN: "It's not a worry, it's just...
[04:39.896] It saved us wasting our lives achieving it."
[04:42.420] PAUL: "Yeah. Our thing just happens to be
[04:45.758] very condensed and speeded. It's speeded up..."
[04:50.196] JOHN: "We chose a modern form of success."
[04:51.895] PAUL: "...very quick, because one second we were just there
[04:54.782] doing 'that' with 'that much' money.
[04:56.846] The next second... people normally take a lifetime to do...
[05:00.458] it was just all there suddenly, just handed.
[05:03.082] And we didn't have to do anything for it."
[05:04.896] JOHN: "Except for work, you know."
[05:06.822] PAUL: "We had to work and do songs and make records,
[05:09.958] and that, but it didn't feel like anything to us.
[05:11.945] And so, that's incredible, that.
[05:15.708] 'Cuz it makes you think. (laughs)
[05:16.832] It also makes you rich."
[05:21.858] JOHN: "It's a way of doing it.
[05:22.995] There's lots of careers to choose.
[05:24.482] And you choose one...
[05:26.258] Everybody wants to get something,
[05:28.295] or make something one way or another.
[05:30.045] And we chose a modern way of making it...and the so-called(?) relative making it,money and cars
[05:38.096] because obviously we didn't want to spend out lives to get to nowhere."
[05:43.355] PAUL: "It's like, if you could take a pill to just get famous and rich,
[05:46.029] a lot of people would. And ours was a bit like that."
[05:49.254] Q: "Was this what you really wanted to do it for
[05:51.254] ... you wanted to get rich?" PAUL & JOHN: "Yeah."
[05:52.548] JOHN: "You just want to 'make it' whatever you do.
[05:56.183] You all set out leaving school or whatever, and you want to make it.
[05:59.945] So you choose your field, and you make it or you don't.
[06:04.434] But MAKE IT, that isn't it because there's nothing to MAKE.
[06:10.145] So we were in the position to find out it's not worth spending your life looking... trying to get cars and kid gloves."
[06:20.784] Q: "Has the fun gone out of your musical career
[06:26.824] now that you've made so much money?" PAUL & JOHN: "No." JOHN: "Nothing like that."
[06:29.095] PAUL: "You see, you're asking questions which are quite serious...
[06:34.309] and you're not asking us, uhh you know,
[06:38.146] where we get our hair cut.
[06:39.382] You can't expect all these sort of happy answers
[06:42.655] when you're asking serious questions." JOHN: "You want the answers.
[06:44.726] Well, we're giving you the answer, you know."  PAUL: "As we see it."
[06:47.387] PAUL: (jokingly) "It isn't very clearly..."
[06:49.344] Q: "Of course it's unclear...Now that you have this tremendous influence,
[06:54.942] which you obviously have all over the world,
[06:57.779] do you have a particular feeling about what you want to do with this power?"
[07:02.005] JOHN: "Just, whatever it is, to try and channel it for GOOD...
[07:05.354] if we can, you know.
[07:07.579] That's the only point of doing anything.
[07:09.691] So we've got this machine,
[07:13.218] and we'll try and make use of it, for good,
[07:15.667] and not just to have a machine."
[07:17.554] PAUL: "You know, you've got your life and you're faced with choices in it.
[07:23.730] And for us being suddenly rich and famous,
[07:30.593] and in a position to do something,
[07:32.841] we've got a choice of doing either what most people do,
[07:37.592] which is just making more and more money,
[07:39.854] and getting more and more rich and famous...
[07:42.066] or trying to DO something which will help.
[07:45.016] And it sounds a bit like charity, but it's obviously the one we've chosen 'cuz it's just better.
[07:54.433] And it just might be in the long run..."
[07:57.973] JOHN: "Might be good."
[07:58.858] PAUL: "Might be good."
[07:59.846] Q: "Let's stick with the young people and the areas that you think are most fruitful to try to help in.
[08:05.910] I asked before, where you thought young people were going,
[08:10.360] and you said well maybe there'll be a reaction to what they have now.
[08:13.322] How does this relate to the real world as you see it...
[08:17.909] to issues of war and peace, family and country?
[08:21.821] JOHN: "All issues are relative. So it relates like that.
[08:26.183] It's all just relative to each other.
[08:28.008] War (pause) and vegetables.
[08:30.458] 'Cuz there's relativity and absolute.
[08:36.112] And that's how it relates, you know."
[08:39.185] PAUL: (chuckles) "Great, Johnny."
[08:39.772] Q: "It's kind of hard though for some people to interpret you."
[08:42.711] JOHN: "Well, if they can't interpret it, maybe they will later...
[08:46.035] or come to their own conclusions.
[08:49.046] But that's the way I think it is."
[08:51.583] PAUL: (to John) "But what do you think about the young people?"
[08:55.359] JOHN: "Well... I think they're young, you know,
[08:58.658] and trying to find out. That's all."
[09:00.696] PAUL: "They seem to be trying to stop wars, and that. "
[09:04.521] JOHN: "...which is beautiful."
[09:06.852] PAUL: "It just looks as though everyone is trying to stop all that killing, and all that fighting."
[09:12.165] JOHN: "It's a good idea."
[09:13.926] PAUL: "It sounds good. It may be just silly to try, but it may be good!"
[09:21.738] Q: "It may not work." PAUL AND JOHN: (quiet chuckle)
[09:23.662] Q: "The word 'anarchy' has been used to describe some of the..."
[09:27.176] JONH: "Well I mean, there always will be that element because,
[09:31.589] when they see it as how they see it to become an anarchist,
[09:36.800] it's 'What can we do about all that?'
[09:39.613] I mean, what can you do really but wear a badge or stand up and shout.
[09:45.262] So the choice is about shouting or 'let it roll.'
[09:49.339] But they're a group of people who will go on forever,
[09:54.053] but they don't actually do anything."
[09:57.189] PAUL: "Everyone needs someone to say 'This is how you do it.
[10:01.763] This is what we want you to do,' you know.
[10:06.614] The thing is, it would be great if we knew how you do it.
[10:11.177] We make guesses, but they're not always right.
[10:14.539] They're often wrong, in fact.
[10:17.166] It'd be great if we knew what it is you do
[10:19.946] Cuz we are in a good position,
[10:20.969] just to say to all the people who want to know how you do it.
[10:23.894] Cuz there are so many phony institusions saying
[10:27.707] 'And this is how you do it!'
[10:29.106] Nobody can believe them anymore.
[10:32.268] So it would be nice for people,
[10:34.406] for someone to just come along and say..."
[10:36.406] JOHN: "Well, it would have to be Jesus, or Buddha or something."
[10:39.056] PAUL: "Yeah."
[10:39.543] JOHN: "But they don't seem to be around at the moment."
[10:41.970] Q: "The whole idea of whether you get involved or whether you stay out of it - Whether you're turned on or turned off.
[10:48.980] How do you feel about that?"
[10:50.543] JOHN: "We believe you should turn on and stay in.
[10:53.630] Change it, you know."
[10:54.868] PAUL: (jokingly) "Drop in... sometime."
[10:57.394] Q: "When you get involved, do you mean getting involved in the establishment and institutions?"
[11:04.433] JOHN: "Well, to change it...
[11:04.905] because unless you change it, it's going to be there forever.
[11:07.294] So the only thing to do is to try and change it...
[11:10.520] but not replace it with another set of Harris Tweed suits.
[11:12.855] And just change it completely.
[11:15.456] But how you do that, we don't know."
[11:17.493] PAUL: "There's a lot of ways,
[11:18.168] but the one we've decided on at the moment
[11:21.093] is just to try and get into a business,
[11:26.143] so that we can go to 'them,' you know,
[11:31.270] all those big bosses in all those big companies,
[11:34.168] and talk to them as though we're..." (laughs)
[11:38.120] PAUL & JOHN: "...one of them!"
[11:41.320] JOHN: "Of course we're not, so we'll see what happens."
[11:44.858] PAUL: "We're not really,
[11:45.205] but we've got people who are doing it for us.
[11:48.381] And it's a bit different from the hippie scene because people think
[11:52.569] "Oh, they haven't washed and they've got long hair.
[11:55.919] Oh that's naughty,' you know.
[11:57.143] And people don't communicate with them
[12:02.045] because they don't like the look of them, or something."
[12:03.731] JOHN: "We're gonna package peace in a new box."
[12:07.344] PAUL: "We're trying to get to, like,
[12:09.794] the people who are sort of in control, and say you know,
[12:12.982] 'Come on. Straighten it out. Don't mess it up.'" (JOHN:??)
[12:16.104] Ask if they can(??). It doesn't look as if they can.
[12:22.464] Q: "You went to India and spent time with Maharishi
[12:26.588] who has had great impact, you feel, on your whole outlook.
[12:29.113] Could you decribe how he's changed things for you?"
[12:32.938] JOHN: "We sort of feel that Maharishi for us was a mistake, really.
[12:39.888] Meditation we don't think was a mistake.
[12:43.038] But I think we had a false impression of Maharishi,
[12:48.737] like people do of us, you know.
[12:50.100] But what we do happens in public, so it's a different scene slightly."
[12:56.739] Q: "What was your original impression?"
[12:58.300] JOHN: "We thought he was something other than he was."
[13:00.763] PAUL: "We thought he was magic, you know,
[13:04.062] because he's got that kind of thing.
[13:07.188] And he sort of, I dont know, the twinkle in the eye.
[13:09.924] And you just think he..."
[13:10.888] JOHN: "We were looking for it,
[13:13.074] and probably superimposed it on him."
[13:15.362] PAUL: "Yeah, it was just the right time anyway.
[13:19.112] There were we, waiting for someone...
[13:20.783] JOHN: "Waiting for a guru. He came.". PAUL:"...the great magic man to come.
[13:23.264] And he came, you know.  There he was and he was talking about it all.
[13:25.800] And he had great answers,
[13:27.500] 'cuz he said 'You can sort yourself out,'
[13:29.864] that you can calm yourself down just
[13:34.126] by doing this very simple thing.
[13:35.712] And it works, that bit of it. It really does do it, you know."
[13:40.300] JOHN: "But the other bit - He's giving out recipes for something,
[13:44.724] then he's still creating the same kind of situations
[13:48.889] which he's giving out recipes to cure."
[13:50.525] PAUL: "But it seems like the system is more important...
[13:53.915] Q: "Sort of a touch of establishment in the Maharishi?"
[13:56.990] JOHN: "Something, you know. We can't...."
[13:59.215] PAUL: "He's okay, but the system is more important, y'know...
[14:02.874] (JOHN: Something taking over something)...the idea of it.
[14:04.808] (JOHN: Some seems to ???)  It always goes by the Budhha(?) bit.
[14:09.243] If people watch Maharishi, or watch us,
[14:12.936] they don't think about the system -
[14:16.398] don't think about what it's about, you know. "
[14:17.847] Q: "He got you to stop taking drugs."
[14:22.459] JOHN: "No he didn't.
[14:23.441] We'd stopped taking drugs a couple of months before,when we met him.
[14:28.141] And that was just sort of...
[14:30.604] The newspapers said, 'Oh! Put it together, we got a title.'
[14:34.706] But it's just not true."
[14:36.479] Q: "You feel that drugs are not necessary anymore for what you do?"
[14:41.480] JOHN: "Uhh, I don't know.
[14:42.666] I'm not making any statements about what I'm going to do for the next 60 years or whatever it is, because I've no idea anymore.
[14:51.794] You can never really know, but just have a vague goal."
[14:56.369] PAUL: "Not at the moment, anyway."
[14:59.104] JOHN: "It's no use saying 'I will never take drugs'
[15:01.729] or 'I WILL take drugs,' because you don't know."
[15:04.616] Q: "After the experiences that you've had,
[15:07.679] do you think that young people who are your fans,
[15:12.080] who idolize you, ought to try the same thing?"
[15:14.969] JOHN: "No. We don't give instructions on how to live your life.
[15:18.255] The only thing we can do, because we're in the public eye,
[15:20.404] is to reflect what we do.
[15:25.281] And they can judge for themselves what happens to us -
[15:27.392] with Maharishi, with drugs, with whatever we go on.
[15:31.406] If they're using us as a guideline.
[15:32.929] And we can only try and do what's right for us,
[15:36.216] and therefore, we hope right for them."
[15:39.367] PAUL: "Some fella said to me,
[15:41.470] 'Have you had LSD, Paul?'
[15:43.996] And I said 'Yes.' And it was only 'cuz
[15:49.432] I was going to just be honest with him.
[15:50.969] There's no other reason.
[15:52.533] I didn't want to spread it or anything, you know.
[15:54.319] I'm not trying to do anything except answer his question.
[15:57.746] But he happened to be a reporter,
[15:59.231] and I happened to be a Beatle.
[16:00.844] So it went into that, you know."
[16:03.144] JOHN: "And it was his responsibility,
[16:04.269] or his paper's responsibility and his TV station."
[16:08.044] PAUL: "That's the thing - He immediately said 'Oh, it's this man's responsibility. He's just saying all the kids should take LSD.'
[16:15.921] And I didn't, you know. I just said,
[16:19.257] 'Yes I've taken it. Okay I own up,' you know."
[16:21.620] Q: "Do you think the press distorts a great deal of what you say?"PAUL & JOHN: Yes!"
[16:25.783] JOHN: "I don't think there's anywhere,
[16:27.019] any truth coming over about what's happening at all."(laughter)
[16:29.909] Q: "Generally, all the way across the board?"
[16:33.858] JOHN: "There is no truth coming out, at all.(PAUL: It's not ???)
[16:38.270] The only true thing about newspapers is the name of the newpaper.(PAUL: I mean newspapers...)
[16:44.820] And I'm not saying that they are intentionally evil or anything,
[16:49.660] it's just they can't control it.
[16:51.796] And the system won't allow truth to come out."  PAUL: "Yeah."
[16:55.132] JOHN: "So there's something wrong with the system."
[16:57.220] PAUL: "You know I mean, this -
[16:59.923] It's a pretty sort of ordinary interview.
[17:02.984] It's pretty dull, you know.
[17:03.945] Except for one or two little things, which will have been headlines..."
[17:08.170] Q: "Of course, when someone watches television, they see it." (PAUL: ...and that's what the newspapers use to take them...???)
[17:11.908] JOHN: "Television is a bit better,
[17:14.369] but it's still under the influence of the system
[17:18.596] that doesn't really allow truth to come out."
[17:20.520] Q: "Well, now you're saying what you think and people are seeing what you say."
[17:24.233] JOHN: "Just for this moment, maybe.
[17:26.358] If we are saying the truth as we know it.
[17:29.382] but in general, I mean...
[17:31.158] Are you saying that the truth is coming out all the time?
[17:33.784] I don't know. You think so? You try, yeah, (PAUL: No, it's probably not, I mean....)
[17:38.746] you try but you've still got a system which restricts and inhibits people speaking their mind.
[17:45.320] I mean, we can speak our mind now about these subjects.
[17:47.557] But there will be limits imposed. And Rules." PAUL: "Mmmm."
[17:52.044] JOHN: "...which are to safeguard something or other.
[17:54.094] But safeguarding it prevents... it has a side effect.
[17:59.422] And the choice is, where to draw the line."
[18:03.746] PAUL: "It's like, if you were to ask either of us a question that the answer would be obscene..."
[18:12.408] JOHN: "There's a censor."
[18:13.444] PAUL: "There's a limit, you know, to where you could go."
[18:15.620] JOHN: "We couldn't describe making love to somebody,
[18:18.932] because the system doesn't allow that.(PAUL: But anyway that's still not to do without truth. They...)
[18:21.694] You couldn't just describe it. That's where the system's at."
[18:29.069] Q: "One of the big controversies in your country had been recently
[18:34.508] the whole question of racial integration and of cutting off immigration,
[18:38.658] and of asking some of your non-whites to go back home again.
[18:42.871] You've been asked about this, undoubtedly." JOHN: "No."
[18:46.493] Q: 'Do you think this is the kind of government policy that you want in your country?"
[18:52.696] JOHN: "We sow what we reap, or whatever it is. (PAUL: Mmm)
[18:55.709] And Britain is paying for what it did to all those countries.
[18:59.996] And to say, 'Keep out,' is just barking in the garden, you know.
[19:05.794] Because whatever is going to happen will happen like that."
[19:09.319] PAUL: "It was just some fella who said in a speech one day..."
[19:13.307] JOHN: "He said what a lot of them thought." (PAUL: He??? a few votes and y'know ??)
[19:16.495] Q: "And a lot of people in Liverpool, and other places you know well, favor what he said, apparantly."
[19:21.895] JOHN: "Sure." PAUL: "Yeah."
[19:22.744] JOHN: "Because those people are all over the place.
[19:24.125] That's why the governments are in power."( PAUL: "You know those people, they don't know a thing. They just hate.")
[19:27.321] JOHN: "Because they're not told anything, as well."
[19:30.545] PAUL: "It's people like this - They say "I'm white and he's black.'
[19:35.921] Hate, hate, hate. They just hate him."
[19:38.571] JOHN: "And he's not brought up any other way."
[19:39.969] PAUL: "You know, they don't know anything else than that,
[19:42.244] so they've got to agree with this fella who says
[19:44.731] "We've got a dangerous situation here.'"
[19:46.256] JOHN: "And they vote him in, and he just makes them feel alright.
[19:49.295] And he tells them that 'You're right! You know what's happening.
[19:52.245] You put me in power'
[19:53.131] But what they don't know is that he knows a bit more what's going on.
[19:58.097] That's why he's in power.
[19:59.082] But he's not going to tell them what's happening because he wants to stay in power.
[20:03.462] Because if they knew, they wouldn't have put him in power, somebody else would be."
[20:06.782] PAUL: "But it's not as bad in England as it is here."
[20:09.719] JOHN: "It probably is, but it's just a different..."
[20:12.169] PAUL: "I don't think it is."
[20:13.193] Q: "You're talking about racism?"
[20:14.418] JOHN: "Well, it will be then."
[20:16.644] PAUL: "I don't think it's as bad, just from what I've seen.
[20:21.633] It might be. 'Cuz it's hidden more in England, definitely, you know."
[20:24.495] JOHN: "That might be worse."
[20:26.556] PAUL: "That might be worse, yeah.
[20:27.093] But there's just not the numbers going on."
[20:33.221] JOHN: "Well, it's just that. England is THAT big,
[20:35.258] and America is THAT big."
[20:37.052] PAUL: (giggles, jokingly) "It's much worse in England, you know!" (laughter)
[20:40.077] Q: ???...Tell us about it. JOHN: (giggling)...terrible things... Oh no, he was joking then. Q: (laughing) "Really?!" JOHN: "He came 'round the circle."
[20:50.718] Q: "This business of color, and young people, and people who follow you... This doesn't have any significance in the mind of many of your young people?"
[21:01.943] PAUL: "No, it's good. Most people don't...
[21:03.932] It seems to be older people who really have got hang-ups."
[21:07.608] JOHN: "Yes, and musicians and their vibrations don't usually have this about what street you live on.
[21:15.333] I mean, they get that scene sorted out as soon as they meet other musicians. Because it's the music that counts.
[21:21.496] There's no common denominator for society like music or whatever they're going for."
[21:26.884] PAUL: "If someone can play guitar, it doesn't matter what colored hands he uses."
[21:30.882] JOHN: "But it also doesn't matter for the carpenter and the bricklayer, and all that."
[21:35.382] PAUL: "But I mean, everyone knows that anyway. There's only a few... I don't know who these people are who..."
[21:43.985] JOHN: (giggling) "They're the ones who vote for those people."
[21:46.695] PAUL: (giggles) "You know, there's just some funny people around who're messing it up."
[21:50.572] JOHN: "Lots of them."
[21:51.294] PAUL: "Let's find those people."
[21:53.094] Q: "Of course, there's people who don't like the long hair..."
[21:54.882] JOHN: "Well, we know those people are SICK!
[21:57.946] And we might all be sick.
[22:00.995] But their manifestations of sickness are pretty horrible, really. Frightening."
[22:08.259] PAUL: "There was some thing in England where a kid went to the barbers and his Uncle said 'Go and get your hair cut.'
[22:15.544] And so he went and he just had a little bit off,
[22:17.119] 'cuz he had it quite long and he liked it.
[22:18.495] And he came back with just a bit off
[22:20.807] - So his Uncle, his guardian,
[22:22.407] got annoyed and dragged him back and had it all off.
[22:25.295] The kid just come with a little crewcut,
[22:27.532] and he was really broken up about it.
[22:30.169] And the next morning they found him on the railway lines.
[22:32.032] The kid has just sort of laid down with his crewcut.
[22:35.259] *chop* You know, there's no need for that."
[22:38.960] JOHN: "To make haircuts that important is insanity."
[22:41.320] Q: "Some people probably say to you,
[22:43.918] 'Why don't you cut your hair short?
[22:46.233] Are you just wearing it that way to be different?'"
[22:48.394] PAUL: "No it's just, 'Why don't you wear yours long,' you know."
[22:51.870] JOHN: "We know what we like in that respect.
[22:54.019] We please ourselves.
[22:55.794] And what's it got to do with (pause) some man with one eye." (laughter) PAULL: It is not... there's no...(giggling)
[23:03.700] JOHN: (giggling) "You know that man with one eye that's always sitting 'round the back!" (laughter)
[23:07.667] JOHN: "...and asking ya why your hair is long!" Q: Yeah... But he's always there...
[23:12.240] PAUL: (laughs) "Yeah, but all those things about hair and color... You know,
[23:16.017] all those things that hang people up.
[23:17.654] There's no need, 'cuz there's no worry.
[23:20.253] I mean, those are the least worrying things around."
[23:22.290] JOHN: "But they're the causes, aren't they!( PAUL: Yeah, they seem to be...)One of the ?? causes. Dittle dittle rum bumble bumble(?)"
[23:28.719] Q: "What about the Queen and royalty in Britain? Is that a hang up?"
[23:32.655] JOHN: "It's not a hang up, but I mean
[23:34.466] - Imagine being brought up like that for two-thousand years.
[23:37.768] You must be pretty freaky.
[23:39.353] And they must have a hard time trying to be human beings.
[23:42.716] I don't know if any of them will ever make it,
[23:44.691] 'cuz I don't know much about them.
[23:46.728] But, you feel sorry for people like that.
[23:50.266] 'Cuz it's like us, only worse!
[23:53.917] And whether they know what's going on or not is another subject."
[23:57.617] PAUL: "They've probably got their own thing, you know, inside the castle."
[24:00.528] JOHN: Mmm... Chest(?). Paul: (Giggling) No they are just...
[24:03.287] Q: Well, you've been inside the castle ??? the decorations... (PAUL: No ,I mean....)
[24:06.189] JOHN: "That is a very strange life, isn't it.
[24:08.162] I mean, that's another manifestation of craziness."
[24:11.415] PAUL: "You don't really TALK to her 'cuz she's the Queen.
[24:13.763] It's like you don't really TALK to President Johnson ever.
[24:16.112] You just sort of shake hands and APPEAR to talk to him."
[24:19.149] JOHN: "And if they BELIEVE that they're royal, that's the joke.
[24:21.812] You know, if they believe it..."
[24:23.899] PAUL: "It's crazy."
[24:25.613] JOHN: "...well they can carry on, you know.
[24:26.912] Because it's just very strange to think that you are royal."
[24:30.199] PAUL: "They're probably just great and human and have just got their own scene going, you know."
[24:36.326] JOHN: "One or two of them, maybe... (giggles) over five-million."
[24:38.913] PAUL: "And it's just a very difficult job."
[24:40.111] Q: "Do you think it all should end?"
[24:41.661] JOHN: "Well, I dont know about that. But it's very costly." PAUL: (laughs)
[24:46.398] JOHN: "It's priorities really, isn't it."
[24:48.940] Q: "It's been said that you have such a tremendous amount of influence.
[24:54.270] You said yourself in that very controversial remark one time that you were more popular than Jesus,
[24:58.745] and you had to correct the interpretation of that."  JOHN: "Yeah."
[25:01.284] PAUL: "'The Queen is freaky' isn't a bad one."
[25:03.032] Q: "Yeah, that's not too bad, either. ??? never had bigger crowds(?) as you did
[25:04.631] PAUL: (jokingly) "Another headline taken out of context yet again!"
[25:10.060] Q: "The United States has been plagued by the war in Vietnam,
[25:13.603] and the world has been concerned about it.
[25:16.678] What are your views about the war?"
[25:17.928] JOHN: "It's another piece of insanity.
[25:20.327] It's all part of the same insane scene that's going on.
[25:25.363] It's just insane. It shouldn't be going on. There's nothing else for it... no reason, just insanity."
[25:32.873] PAUL: "You know, whoever's right and whoever's wrong,
[25:37.252] it's still... the thing that's going on there isn't a good thing. It's only that much willed(?).
[25:44.637] A few bits of it does rough things going on.
[25:48.824] A few bits does worse things and a few bits is just insane. And that's one of those bits.
[25:55.625] Q: "Since you're not diplomats, let me ask you to meddle in American politics as our concluding question.
[26:01.476] We have a lot of candidates..."PAUL & JOHN: "We don't know much about it."
[26:03.917] Q: "You know the names..." JOHN: "No."
[26:05.434] Q: "You've heard the names..."
[26:06.581] JOHN: "Not really."PAUL: (jokingly) Eisenhower?"Q: (laughs) JOHN: "We hear the sort of Kennedy,
[26:09.472] and we met a man called Green who sells plastic flowers to try and get people to vote for him,
[26:16.285] which is a good sign of what he is, anyway.
[26:18.683] But we don't know much others."
[26:20.283] PAUL: (peace symbols) "Doves." JOHN: "Doves and olives."(laughter)
[26:21.783] JOHN: "Anything about that, my choice would be a dove.
[26:25.773] But I mean, it might be an insane dove.
[26:27.370] That's the risk you gotta take."
[26:29.808] Q: "You're not ready to make a commitment?"
[26:35.447] PAUL: "Yeah sure. Go on, ask some."
[26:36.796] Q: "Would you pick a McCarthy, or a Kennedy?"JOHN: "A dove."
[26:39.458] Q: "Humphrey, Nixon or Rockefeller?" JOHN: "A dove."
[26:43.809] PAUL: "Yeah. You know, it's just too hard 'cuz we don't know what they are, those people.
[26:50.260] We see all their pictures in the paper,
[26:52.546] but we don't know really what they're doing. Do you?"
[26:55.547] Q: "What about Harold Wilson?" (Merseyside member of Parliament and then-current Prime Minister)
[26:58.897] JOHN: "Yes! What's HE doing?!"(laughter)
[27:00.771] JOHN: "I mean, what are they all doing? That's the point."
[27:03.423] Q: "Let me just ask this one final question.
[27:06.935] What do you do when you talk about the establishment,
[27:09.922] and you try to put something in it's place... when you're not satisfied with..."
[27:13.848] JOHN: "We're all part of it as well.
[27:15.146] I mean, the establishment is abstract and all that bit.
[27:18.649] We're all part of it.
[27:20.659] So it's just to change it anyway you can, if you think you can.
[27:26.998] That's all you can do."
[27:28.197] Q: "Gentlemen, Thank you very much."
[27:30.421] JOHN: "Pleasure."PAUL: "Thank you."
[27:31.844] Q: John Lennon and Paul McCartney.

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